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Okay. We have
1) House not wearing a watch since the morning after he slept with Cuddy in "Now what?"
2) Ausiello spoilers of a "time warp" in one of the shows this season
3) House asking what time it is from under Cuddy's bed in "Bombshells" and later joking with her doctors about keeping an eye out for his watch
4) Cuddy telling Wilson, "You can't go backwards."
5) The episode title for 7X22, "After Hours," suggesting something to do with time
6) The episode title for 7X19, "The Last Temptation," suggesting visions of an alternate future
7) Tweets from GY about the filmed H/C beach scenes being real and the sequences in 7X15 perhaps being "dreams within dreams."

My question for y'all is, has there been ANY sign of time passing this season, in the form of holidays being celebrated (no Christmas or V-Day if I recall correctly, even though with House in a relationship, you would think those might come up)? Any genuine winter weather at all?

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pgrabia
Mar. 20th, 2011 03:32 pm (UTC)
I haven't noticed any holidays, no. That may or may not be relevant. I don't believe there was a Christmas episode last season either. My concern is that if those beach photos were real, and this is a time warp, does that mean House and Cuddy get together again at the end of the season for real? Are we facing yet another Huddy season or if not a Huddy season then a Huddy series finale? Has this break-up simply been a way of keeping more Hilsons from defecting from the show and we're going to be stabbed in the back again?
flywoman
Mar. 20th, 2011 04:20 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think you're right that they didn't do a Christmas ep last year. There was Thanksgiving, though, and there were eps with snow.

I don't know what a time warp would mean, really. If anything, I lean towards the interpretation that seeing how badly things could turn out would prevent the relationship from happening in the first place. The House/Cuddy fans would really feel screwed then. But I don't think DS and co. care much what they, or we, think anyway. High ratings don't come from the small minorities of rabid fans to which we belong.
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flywoman
Mar. 20th, 2011 05:36 pm (UTC)
Speaking just for myself, I think that if they actually had the guts to portray any kind of House/Wilson sexual relationship, I would be ecstatic, even if it ended up being totally screwed up and/or OOC. But I'm feeling pretty safe here.

And I agree with you about the importance of maintaining the Princeton illusion from their LA studio. Highly suspicious, IMO.
srsly_yes
Mar. 20th, 2011 07:36 pm (UTC)
I did notice a lot of overcoats--Wilson and Foreman, and I think Taub wore one as well.
pgrabia
Mar. 20th, 2011 11:03 pm (UTC)
A thought just occurred to me. One of the upcoming episodes is called 'The Last Temptation'--what if this is an attempt by both House and Cuddy to get back together but because it is just a temptation it doesn't work out and it becomes apparent that they are truly better off apart? The beach scenes et al. could be real in that they weren't just red herrings for the viewing public but not real as in real-life for House and Cuddy but still part of the one larger dream or hallucination. Get what I'm trying to say? God, I really am grasping desperately at sticks, aren't I?
flywoman
Mar. 20th, 2011 11:25 pm (UTC)
Get what I'm trying to say?

I'm not sure. Are you saying that everything we've seen of their relationship so far is a dream or hallucination, whoever's having it think's it's over and experiences their "first day with beach scenes," and then the person comes back to reality for realz?

Just FYI, House is not wearing a watch in the beach scenes, either. And it's not because they went in the water or anything like that - they're fully dressed, sitting by the remains of a campfire. So maybe that supports this theory since time is still missing?
pgrabia
Mar. 20th, 2011 11:51 pm (UTC)
Um, let's see if I can explain what I'm thinking more clearly. First of all, there has been some speculation that those beach pictures were simply TPTB screwing with our minds and weren't actually anything to do what would happen during the season. Red Herrings. Then GY (was it?) says that they were real. What I'm thinking he meant by that was that they weren't just PR red herrings, that they really are from actual scenes shot that will be seen at some point yet this season.

Okay, with that said, my theory (hypothesis, actually) is that if this entire season has been someone's dream of hallucination, then the episode 'The Last Temptation' is part of this larger dream or time warp or whatever. As far as the episode itself, I'm wondering if we might not find it to be an attempted reconcilliation between House and Cuddy. They leave together and go to the beach, to a restaurant etc. but end up realizing that they really don't belong together and break-up again for good. Like they were tempted to start their relationship again but then come to realize (or at least one of them does) that it's a mistake and stay broken up. Has this clarified anything?
flywoman
Mar. 21st, 2011 12:17 am (UTC)
Yes, that clarifies what you were thinking. However, the beach scenes were filmed from that alternate script for "Now What?" So I guess it's possible that they just decided to trash and rewrite that script completely, and they will end up using the scenes for some other purpose, but my thought was that they might actually show the alternate version of that episode at some point and make it clear that the rest of what we've seen was in someone's head. (Although I suppose it's just as possible that they would show the alternate version as a vision/hallucination.)
srsly_yes
Mar. 20th, 2011 05:38 pm (UTC)
I checked several of my recordings. The watch is in the beginning of Now What? During the scar kissing and House carrying Cuddy to bed. By the morning it's gone and stays gone. I looked at another four episodes, through Small Sacrifices, and no watch.

There is snow... in the commercial breaks. ;-) Actually, You Must Remember contains an aerial view of a snow covered PPTH. Maybe it was a budgetary decision to cut snow on the sets, or the overhead shot could be a continuity error. It's sad that we can't rely upon what we see on the show.
flywoman
Mar. 20th, 2011 05:41 pm (UTC)
Ah. Good catch on the snow shot in You Must Remember. Maybe the weather really isn't a clue, then. Or maybe someone messed up.
blackmare
Mar. 20th, 2011 05:49 pm (UTC)
I've been in this fandom long enough to have seen several seasons' worth of "Here's why this whole season is probably a dream/hallucination" speculation, so this is not new, and I don't think it's what's happening, either. It's fun to think it might be, but no; this show is just written so crazily that it lends itself to the feeling that it can't possibly be real.
flywoman
Mar. 20th, 2011 06:24 pm (UTC)
readingrat has a very funny take on that very theme for S6.

You could very well be right. There just seems to be... a lot of oddness in the air right now.
petitecuriosity
Mar. 20th, 2011 06:01 pm (UTC)
There have been a few things that I don't know whether or not to chalk up to bad, odd, or inconsistent writing.

First of all, there has been a definite lack of leg pain, less limping, Rachel sitting on House's bad leg, and House's lack of cane use... One could possibly argue that House's leg pain was in large part psychosomatic, or that the endorphin rush of being in a new relationship caused the pain to be less noticeable.

However, with how many arguments House and Cuddy had and how afraid he was of losing her, I would honestly assume that during those times of stress, his leg would have hurt.

Second of all, the medicine has had far less intense camera angles.

I don't know exactly what GY means by "dreams within dreams" but I'm actually starting to suspect that Cuddy might be the one hallucinating. House acted drastically differently this season, in an effort to try to change, to make his relationship work. He's said and done things that most of us would never have expected him to. Then, Cuddy has a 50's sitcom dream where House isn't limping at all and is acting incredibly docile. She says something like "None of this is possible." That line still makes me wonder...

Actually, there has been less of a focus on the medicine in general which makes me wonder if that's because this season is more from Cuddy's point of view...

The lack of an emphasis on leg pain might indicate that this is from Cuddy's point of view because she likely wouldn't notice it as much as House would.

Not to mention the fact that there has been a strikingly large focus on her character this season. While I feel as though Cuddy loves House, I have to wonder if the way he's been acting this season, less leg pain, more agreeable, might be the more idealistic way that Cuddy views him.

Also, the poster where House is walking along a thin rail, leaning on his bad leg might indicate the fine line between hallucination and reality.

Also, the scene in Bombshells where House is sitting on the floor, Vicodin in hand, is strikingly similar to the last scene in "Help Me" (but of course that could have been done for stylistic reasons.)

There's also the fact that Rachel is referring to pills as candy. It seems odd. They could have been Cuddy's pills that she was taking for a possible disease and she could have been hallucinating as a result.

It's possible that Cuddy actually got injured in "Help Me" and has been in a coma in the hospital ever since. She said some awfully hurtful things to House that night (and actually did some rather hurtful things to him throughout season 6) and I have to wonder if the entire season might have been a hallucination of how a relationship could have gone, and its falling apart might be indicative of Cuddy's regret for or fear of hurting him.

If Cuddy was in a coma (and I hate to think of this possibility) but it's possible that despite her words and actions, House remained by her side, possibly telling her how much he loves her during what is a very dramatic time for her. Perhaps seeing her in a coma caused him to relapse but has helped him to be by her side, to be there. Maybe the beach date is her and House going out at House's suggestion with Cuddy chalking up her entire relationship falling apart to merely a hallucination.

Hopefully, if that were the case, it would be a hallucination she wouldn't be able to forget.

Anyway, I apologize that I've merely offered speculation on whether or not it's a hallucination as opposed to signs of time passing, by your entry really did make me wonder if it's possible that Cuddy is hallucinating.

Or hell, maybe it's Thirteen's coma.

Sorry for the lack of coherency of this comment and how out on a limb I've gone. I'm sick and kind of drugged up at the moment lol.

As far as actual time passing, I think it's been mentioned once or twice how long House and Cuddy have been dating throughout the season. Maybe there's a discrepancy? And how about that in relation to how long Wilson's been broken up from Sam? (I believe in 7x12, House said 3 months?)

That's all I can think of. Sorry if this comment is unhelpful lol.
flywoman
Mar. 20th, 2011 06:22 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your comments!

I think that you make a lot of good points. Sadly, I think an alternative explanation is that House has been focused on Cuddy this season and not on the medicine, that being in a relationship (even with its problems) is distracting him from the leg pain, and that he has been acting more agreeable because he genuinely wanted to please Cuddy and keep her. The last scene in Bombshells was absolutely meant to echo the one in Help Me, but it could just have been to indicate that House's relationship is over and he's back where he started, alone and on Vicodin.

And given the interviews we've been reading, I don't think that bad, odd, or inconsistent writing can be ruled out either :P.
petitecuriosity
Mar. 21st, 2011 01:07 am (UTC)
I definitely agree that the most likely explanation for House's lack of leg pain was the distraction of his relationship and his more agreeable behavior was merely to please Cuddy. But it was fun to throw out conspiracy theories. ;)

I am still curious as to whether or not there will be a time warp. My boyfriend suggested that House is actually still at Mayfield and that the past two seasons were hallucinations, but I think that that's really going out on a limb.
cuddyclothes
Mar. 20th, 2011 09:17 pm (UTC)
I have no idea, no comment, no speculation. Very little on the show makes sense any more. Beyond the thunderstorms in "Family Practice" and the oh-so-sad raining to underscore any angsty scenes, there hasn't been much reference to the weather. When House came in drunk, Cuddy wrapped herself in a warm throw, so I took it to be a cold night. Also, the cast has been wearing overcoats (including 3M, who managed to find a hideous wool coat.
stenveny
Mar. 21st, 2011 03:25 am (UTC)
I've seen overcoats as recently as "Carrot or Stick", Cuddy's in flannel jammies and a warm shawl in "Recession Proof," and now it's magically warm enough for the pool.

I'm trying to erase a lot of the season from my conscious mind, but if the hallucination/dream sequence explanation is at all plausible, I'm going to put my money on most of the season (from "Office Politics" forward) being House's very pessimistic predictions and fears of where a relationship with Cuddy would take him. I suspect that if they hit the reset button back to the last five minutes of "Help Me", and he knew then what he knows now, he'd toss her out and take the vicodin.
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