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Was I the only one wincing there?

Spoilers for "The Fix" if you haven't seen it.

barefootpuddles  asked in the comments of her recent post, what the heck was going on with House destroying Wilson's stuff in last night's episode? I want to know, too. Apparently some viewers thought that this was totally hot. Others no doubt thought that Wilson deserved it for his meddling (in particular for his threat the week before to prevent House from obtaining more Vicodin if he didn't go settle with Mama Cuddy).

I did not. House scared me - scared me in a way that he hadn't since the leap off the balcony in "Out of the Chute." I can't remember him ever using physical violence to intimidate Wilson like that before. It really made me worry for their friendship. I wonder what would have happened if Wilson had stood his ground instead of capitulating and biting his tongue.

Do you think that House's behavior was being affected by the experimental treatment in this scene (and/or the barfight scene)? Or was it the logical culmination of growing frustration with Wilson for some reason that I don't really understand?

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menolly_au
May. 11th, 2011 02:53 am (UTC)
I'm hoping that it was an affect of the experimental drugs but I think it more likely that the writers just thought it was a 'House' thing to do. He did sweep Wilson's stuff off his desk once before but this was a lot more aggresssive, I think it's just as well Wilson backed off.

To be honest I was suprised that this episode has received such positive reviews - I thought the experimental drug thing was totally bizarre, for a season and a half House was surviving with Ibuprofen, now even Vicodin isn't enough? Why not just go back on methadone (seeing as apparently he isn't that bothered about solving cases anymore)
flywoman
May. 11th, 2011 03:01 am (UTC)
My understanding was that the increased pain was the result, not the cause, of the experimental treatment. Exactly why he's decided now that fixing his leg will fix his life I'm not sure. Or maybe he's just spiraling into ever more dangerous behaviors post-break-up and that was the only reason he needed for trying the new drug?
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barefootpuddles
May. 11th, 2011 03:06 am (UTC)
I can't remember him ever using physical violence to intimidate Wilson like that before.

He has. I recall him smacking his cane into Wilson's shins to shut Wilson up about how House's leg pain was from missing Stacy. He also dreamed hitting Wilson in 'No Reason', but that was a dream (though it probably showed that he wanted to).He also once slammed his cane across Cuddy's desk in an attempt to physically intimidate her. And of course he punched Chase. Physical intimidation is not beyond House's repertoire.

That said, this seemed different in a way. I totally agree that this seemed liked something more than just House bad behavior. You are correct about his behavior seeming scary and I actually thought he might hit Wilson at one point. I thought for sure it was something to do with the drugs, but then after the episode was over I thought perhaps not (especially since he suddenly became nice to Wilson again). It would be a great storyline if it turns out to be from the drugs.

I do wish Wilson had not turned all placating. A stronger response by Wilson would have been a nice touch. Even putting aside that he is cute when bossy, I also felt that Wilson missed a chance with house to set some boundaries here, and unfortunately his response made him seem like a doormat.



Edited at 2011-05-11 03:07 am (UTC)
flywoman
May. 11th, 2011 03:16 am (UTC)
I do remember him smacking Wilson in the shins, but that was to make a point about the leg pain. Punching Chase was not meant as intimidation either - he was in withdrawal and trying to get away from Chase and leave the hospital. He, has, though, used his cane (and other objects) to intimidate Wilson and others before, you're right. I just really felt this time like the coldness with which he cleared the desk and destroyed the picture was really frightening.

I didn't like seeing Wilson behave like a doormat either, but I don't think I could have reacted differently to this crazy guy with a cane who's supposed to be my best friend.
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nightdog_barks
May. 11th, 2011 03:07 am (UTC)
It reminded me immediately of whatever episode it was where House shoved a bunch of stuff (including that little Zen sand garden) off Wilson's desk so Cameron could sit down. Except Wilson wasn't there to see him do it. It was pretty chilling both times.

My assumption was that it was the experimental drug affecting House, plus a level of frustration at events in his personal life, although the writers really didn't make that clear.
flywoman
May. 11th, 2011 03:11 am (UTC)
I definitely remember him shoving everything off Wilson's desk, although that felt to me like a very different situation since Wilson wasn't present. Here I was afraid that he was actually going to hurt Wilson.
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srsly_yes
May. 11th, 2011 03:51 am (UTC)
I went back and forth about that scene. At first I was startled by House pushing everything off the desk. It wasn't done quite the same way as the sand garden, with his usual-wth-it's-only-Wilson's-stuff-he-won't-care panache. Plus, while Wilson looked startled, he wasn't intimidated and kept talking. He didn't register alarm. Breaking the glass crossed a line and stunned me. House showed frustration, maybe anger. Then again, Wilson made a joke and didn't get upset. Am I supposed to trust Wilson's instinct? Wilson's been wrong in the past.

I'm hoping that scene is foreshadowing about the side effects of the experimental drug, but there's so much odd stuff this season and continuity fail, I don't feel very confident in the writers' intentions.

It's disconcerting watching a character who Shore claims never changes, always behaving unpredictably.
flywoman
May. 11th, 2011 11:36 am (UTC)
Then again, Wilson made a joke and didn't get upset.

I think that Wilson was genuinely frightened and upset by what House had done and might do next and made the joke to defuse the situation. He just wanted House to get out of there before anything got damaged that couldn't be fixed.
blackmare
May. 11th, 2011 03:55 am (UTC)
It was scary as hell, and read to me like a combination of drugs, pain, and frustration.

I'm torn about Wilson's response; he could simply have told House to get out, and I think I'd have been happier, but then I think he was in shock. I know I was.
pgrabia
May. 11th, 2011 06:55 am (UTC)
It could also be that Wilson is in that state of denial about just how badly messed up House really is that House mentioned while talking with Wilson on the hotel balcony a few episodes back. House theorized that Wilson was in denial because then he could convince himself that House was going to be okay when in fact House really is fucked up badly and won't be okay.
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yarroway
May. 11th, 2011 05:48 am (UTC)
I took Wilson's abrupt change in tactics to mean he was scared.

The most chilling thing about this to me was that House wasn't out of control. He did it deliberately to punish Wilson for talking and let him know that he didn't want to hear it.

Hard to know what it portends. I can't even guess.
flywoman
May. 11th, 2011 11:27 am (UTC)
The most chilling thing about this to me was that House wasn't out of control. He did it deliberately to punish Wilson for talking and let him know that he didn't want to hear it.

Yes, this is exactly what scared me about this scene. House didn't fly into a rage. He was using these tactics coldly and deliberately.
petitecuriosity
May. 11th, 2011 06:09 am (UTC)
Hmmm. Just went back to watch the scene. Like many others have been saying, it could have been an affect of the drugs. Maybe increased aggression is a side effect? He could have also been frustrated that the treatment wasn't working, that the patient he was trying to save was baffling him (perhaps looking for someone to fix where he couldn't fix himself), and his breakup with Cuddy is still a fresh wound. Plus, he just lost a bet. Like many have been saying, it could have been a combination of factors.

He might also be angry about the fact that Wilson's advice isn't fixing his problems.

Or (and I'm likely being too analytical here), House is sick and tired of Wilson's advice. "Anything else you want to say?" is what House asks him. House constantly pushes Wilson and I'm wondering if House feels as though Wilson never gives him anything but placating advice. It almost seems like a silent cry for help. House doesn't want platitudes, he doesn't want to be psychoanalyzed, he doesn't want to be lectured. Maybe House feels as though he hasn't gotten a real response from Wilson in awhile.
flywoman
May. 11th, 2011 11:33 am (UTC)
Or (and I'm likely being too analytical here), House is sick and tired of Wilson's advice.

I definitely think that this is possible. Still, House has been coming to Wilson for advice all year; he only started rejecting it in "Out of the Chute." So if that's the case, it's a pretty tough break for Wilson, imo.
pgrabia
May. 11th, 2011 06:43 am (UTC)
Do you think that House's behavior was being affected by the experimental treatment in this scene (and/or the barfight scene)? Or was it the logical culmination of growing frustration with Wilson for some reason that I don't really understand?

I think that House's mind is being affected by the experimental drug. If it causes tumors in rats and legs, what prevents it from forming tumors in his brain, too. In fact I'm in the process of writing a fic based on the premise that House's violent, agressive behavior and personality changes are due to tumors in his frontal lobe and the rear corpus collosum, two areas that affect personality and emotions.
House's behavior towards Wilson was not generated by intense emotion which is usually the case with House. It was done with cold, malicious detachment if that makes any sense. It scared the hell out of me, too.

There might still be some residual resentment from the Sam arc that House feels but I really don't think that's where the problem lies. If it is something physical like tumors in the brain then theoretically once those are removed his behavior should return to normal. At least, I hope it does.
flywoman
May. 11th, 2011 11:30 am (UTC)
House's behavior towards Wilson was not generated by intense emotion which is usually the case with House. It was done with cold, malicious detachment if that makes any sense. It scared the hell out of me, too.

Yes, that's exactly what freaked me out so much.

If it is something physical like tumors in the brain then theoretically once those are removed his behavior should return to normal.

if that's the case, let's hope that someone figures it out and operates in time...
yarroway
May. 11th, 2011 11:07 am (UTC)
Straying off topic, I'm grateful to you for this post. While many loved the last episode, I didn't. I couldn't figure out why, but some of the points made in this post have helped me put my finger on it. So thanks!
flywoman
May. 11th, 2011 11:31 am (UTC)
That's not off topic :). Thanks for joining in the discussion!
jezziejay
May. 11th, 2011 03:19 pm (UTC)
I thought it was a bit scary too - especially when he started breaking the pictures. I was also thinking about what might happen when he ran out of stuff to hit. (As in would he hit Wilson?)

I put it down to the drug he was taking - he seemed to be spoiling for a fight for most of the ep - taunting the boxer, picking a fight at a bar. (The guy at the bar was interesting - very Wilson-esque as the voice of reason, and the more reasonable he was, the more annoyed House got - made me wonder if he was metaphorically hitting Wilson.) That the ep also had undertones of violence across the board - betting on a boxing match, scenes in the gym, and the POV being involved in the manufacture of bombs/weapons.

Still, if this behaviour is new (in Wilson's office), then Wilson really should have been more concerned?

Unless he's putting it down to THE BREAK-UP? (Worthy of capital letters as everything this season has been about THE RELATIONSHIP or THE BREAK-UP.)

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