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Repetition and insanity

I was chatting with petitecuriosity  on her page about this, but I'm going to bring it up here in case you ladies with the sharp eyes (and ears) can point out more things that I missed.

First of all, we were talking about whether all of the out-of-character and maybe over-the-top stuff we've seen this season might best be explained as self-loathing inventions by House's own head. I won't belabor that point here.

Second, I (and others) have noticed that aspects of certain episodes appear again in later episodes... almost like the way the events in daily life end up manifesting in one's dreams. From my comments in another post: I've also been thinking about the idea that events from earlier dreams could crop up again in later dreams (as Maya points out for "Now What?". For example, the bartender says something about "forget your troubles" in 7X16, which comes from the musical number in 7X15. House's jump into the pool is a lot like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid talking about how it's the fall that's gonna kill you. Also, House makes the joke about how many prostitutes he has "eaten," which seems like a foreshadowing of this week's cannibal killer. In "Two Stories" we got a question about whether House wanted to be an astronaut or a bullfighter, and in 7X16 we got a bullfighter (well, rider). In 7x16 House told Wilson that at least he didn't marry every woman he slept with, and now he's married to a hooker. Do you think that these are just coincidences?

Finally, this L.A. Times interview raises an interesting point about Masters: 

"Masters has been put through the ringer in the last few weeks: She’s discovered that when you are truthful with patients, it can be detrimental. She’s also lied to a patient's family member. She has discovered House is an addict and finally, she has facilitated in curing a suspected serial killer. Is a catastrophic meltdown in her future?

JK: Depends on your definition of meltdown. Stay tuned."

This really made me wonder whether Masters might just... disappear? As in, when House finally snaps out of his prolonged dream/coma/hallucination/what have you?

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barefootpuddles
Mar. 25th, 2011 06:10 am (UTC)
House also makes serial killer jokes about Wilson in "Out of the Chute" to Carnell. IIRC it went something like "we're going to have sex and then I am going to kill him and leave his body in the bathtub". No mention of eating Wilson though.

Personally I just think the writers get off on hookers and killing people, but maybe there is more to it.

Maybe this is all Master's dream?
flywoman
Mar. 25th, 2011 11:25 am (UTC)
Oh, you're right - I'd forgotten about that joke (maybe because my mind went elsewhere as soon as House mentioned the sex, lol)
pgrabia
Mar. 25th, 2011 07:05 am (UTC)
I've gotten to the point where I'm just too disillusioned and exhausted from how ridiculous this show has become and how OOC absolutely everyone is. Every week they jump another shark. All the characters are becoming caracatures. I can't even begin to speculate what any of this is leading or what the reason behind the repetition of thse ideas is about. All I know is that I heard a rumor that DS lied again and there will be a Huddy reunion, possibly on the season finale. At this point I wouldn't be surprised.

bluelucille
Mar. 25th, 2011 08:41 am (UTC)

All I know is that I heard a rumor that DS lied again and there will be a Huddy reunion, possibly on the season finale. At this point I wouldn't be surprised.


Where did you hear that? I highly doubt that H/Cu will end up as a couple again. It would make no sense in the narrative sense. We saw from ep7x01 to ep14 that these two people just don`t work in a relationship.I hadn`t the feeling that these two were happy together at all. They may love each other (with good sex) but it isn`t enough to maintain a relationship. Cuddy needs stability and House can`t offer her this. What House wants and needs, we simply don`t know and i guess he doesn`t know what he really needs to be happy.IMO Bombshells clearly showed that.
But you may be right that the final episode might be another Huddy fest. Hopefully this time with a real thoughtful & deep conversation about their issues and not another painfull & childish powerplay.
flywoman
Mar. 25th, 2011 11:30 am (UTC)
I agree that it wouldn't make any sense for them to get back together after the relationship we've seen. UNLESS the relationship we've seen never actually existed in the first place. If S7 to date reflects House's fears of not being able to make things work with Cuddy, balancing his personal life and diagnostic mojo, etc., then maybe he/they CAN do better. Also, DS wouldn't have lied because they never broke up, thus they aren't really "getting back together."

Although I personally feel that there is plenty of evidence from earlier seasons that they would not be compatible as a couple no matter how much sexual chemistry they have.
pgrabia
Mar. 25th, 2011 07:06 pm (UTC)
UNLESS the relationship we've seen never actually existed in the first place.

I can't remember where I heard it. There's been some speculation that this season is just a dream and that it may have begun after the first sex scene of "Now What" the morning after--because of the watch issue and the watch disappeared at that point. If that's in deed the case, then H and C did get together, they did sleep together and as far as we know it would have continued, hence, a whole new Huddy situation 'real world' that we would have to choke through (well, I wouldn't. I'd stop watching altogether. Also, that would mean that Wilson would still be a jerk still tied to Sam. Now we were told that Sam wouldn't be back but then again we were told that Cameron would be. So you can't believe anything TPTB say. Whether or not DS lied technically or not, it would still amount to a lie because we'd still be stuck with House and Cuddy canoodling and be force to watch Cuddy flaunt her body all over the place all over again. Sorry, but at this point I am so cynical that I'm finding it hard to write fanfiction because of it. I'm tired of having it thrown in my face that House and Cuddy are OTP, always have been and always will be and that House will always be a drug addicted loser who will never grow and improve and get healthy but will always be a miserable son of a bitch.
flywoman
Mar. 25th, 2011 09:16 pm (UTC)
The speculation you heard about the watch was probably from this earlier post.

Were we told that Cameron would return? I thought they just said there was an option in JM's contract that might or might not be used.

That is a point about Sam... except that again, technically she wouldn't be coming back if she had never left in the first place.


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flywoman
Mar. 25th, 2011 11:37 am (UTC)
The thing is, some shows make those references - Buffy routinely made those references - in the service of continuity. House? Not so much until this season. Correct me if I'm wrong? Could be the seven year itch, I suppose, but it would be really interesting (at least for me) if it turned out to be more than that.

As for Masters, I've read other interviews in which it was emphasized how "cool" her departure would be. That's also part of what made me think that this could be a major plot point, not just for her but for the season as a whole.
flywoman
Mar. 25th, 2011 12:01 pm (UTC)
Another thought: jezziejay and I (and others) have pondered long and hard about a spoiler regarding the end of this season: "think 'Gone with the Wind.'" We speculated that this might mean that a character would die like Melanie, that Rachel would die like Bonnie and House and Cuddy would blame each other, or that Cuddy would have a miscarriage like Scarlett or be forced to terminate a pregnancy to save her own life, because of House.

Now I'm thinking... maybe the actual storyline of Gone with the Wind has nothing to do with it. Instead, maybe this whole season will be "gone with the wind" once House regains his senses.
damigella_314
Mar. 25th, 2011 04:28 pm (UTC)
The good thing about "Gone with the Wind" is that it ends with a break-up. Which I hope is what is meant.
The bad thing: now all I can think about is Rhett Butler leaving Rossella O'Hara for Ashley Wilkes.

Cuddy seems a bit too infertile to have anything but a very early miscarriage, but Rachel dying seems a possible plot development. I'm not sure I would care so much, although of course for Cuddy it would be devastating. I had even forgotten about the dying child in GwtW, I saw it so long ago.
flywoman
Mar. 25th, 2011 09:19 pm (UTC)
I based "Regarding House" on the idea that Rachel would be killed in an accident and Cuddy would blame House for some reason. Bonnie's death was really what broke Rhett and their marriage, just when Scarlett was about to realize how much she actually loved him.
justjuly4
Mar. 25th, 2011 07:49 pm (UTC)
"The good thing about "Gone with the Wind" is that it ends with a break-up."

Exactly! But I might agree with Flywoman that "gone with the wind" could mean fade away, disappear like a dream, a mirage... But I think that Shore and scriptwriters are not brave (or crazy) enough to declare that S7 was a fantasy, some kind of "mind games" of House (or even worse Cuddy). No-no! It can't be true. I think we shouldn't over-analyze rumors (or signs) we got from Fox.

I'm intrigued with Masters leaving and Thirteen coming back. May be Damigella_314 was right suspecting Martha could have a crush on Thirteen, so she would leave because of that.

What do you think about Dominica? Are you expecting to see her in future episodes? I've heard that she's not for one episode.
flywoman
Mar. 25th, 2011 09:11 pm (UTC)
Rumor has it that Mrs. House will around through S7 and possibly even into S8.
justjuly4
Mar. 30th, 2011 06:37 pm (UTC)
Did you see the watch on House's wrist? The Dig promo photos, I mean. The watch is back! And House looks gorgeous in his new checked shirt :)
flywoman
Mar. 30th, 2011 08:59 pm (UTC)
Yes, I did notice the watch in the promo for the next episode. I'm not sure what, if anything, to make of that!
justjuly4
Mar. 31st, 2011 06:52 pm (UTC)
Sorry for bothering you once again with my guesses, but this post is the only one where I took part in discussing spoilers. Did you see the last photo GY posted via twitter? Barefoot House in a white suite with a white cane and a look of a saint in the eyes? The photo took my breath away! Literally. I stopped breathing for a few seconds. What do you think?
(if you didn't see the photo, this is the link to House MD community post, where you can find it http://community.livejournal.com/greg_house_ru/739264.html )
flywoman
Mar. 31st, 2011 11:42 pm (UTC)
OMG! Thanks for the link! I wonder whether this is actually the last season of House? It really gives me the same kind of feeling as when he and Amber were talking on the bus. And I've always thought that he would die at the end of the series.
justjuly4
Apr. 1st, 2011 11:09 am (UTC)
I felt the same, this photo reminded me of the bus scene too. However, I heard rumors about S8... So I'm thinking of some kind of a cliffhanger ending of S7 last episode... An accident leading to a coma? Or may be it would happen to be a dream.
By the way, I've thought about House dying at the end as well.
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