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Election results - more good news!

Not only was Obama re-elected by a significant margin in the electoral college as well as the popular vote, Maine and Maryland approved same-sex marriage by popular vote (the seventh and eighth states to do so), and Tammy Baldwin became the first openly gay U.S. senator, of Wisconsin.

Thanks to El Pais for keeping me better informed than the news outlets in my own country.

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sageharper
Nov. 7th, 2012 01:04 pm (UTC)
Oh wow, I didn't know all of that ... 8 down 42 to go then. ;)

It's great you have the other option for commentary. The BBC gets a lot of love from my American friends too, especially when it was the olympics (here people just complained there was too much sport on tv).
flywoman
Nov. 7th, 2012 01:50 pm (UTC)
Hahaha, yeah, we have to celebrate each small victory as it comes.

The BBC is great too, but I've been trying to read El Pais as part of my personal Spanish improvement program :).
sageharper
Nov. 7th, 2012 04:41 pm (UTC)
I have friends (lesbian couple with three kids) who were legally married in MA but then moved to Maine; so they've been 'roommates' for the last few years, and now they're thinking about renewing their vows. That kind of thing brings it home. Crazy to think people's lives can be messed about just because of 'religion' or whatever.

Good for you. :)
I should probably do that too. The watching Xavi interviews on youtube for 'listening comprehension' probably isn't fooling anyone.
flywoman
Nov. 7th, 2012 10:00 pm (UTC)
I can understand people objecting to gay marriage on the grounds of religion... the religion that THEY practice. Why they think they have the right to impose the that religion on others in a pluralistic nation, I am baffled.

Yeah, I do my share of watching/listening to Spanish/Argie footballers for comprehension as well. ;)
sageharper
Nov. 7th, 2012 11:53 pm (UTC)
Exactly, 'seperation of church and state' isn't that ambigeous surely.

Good to know it's not just me. I had to learn German at school and did ok, but so rusty now; maybe if I'd followed Bundesliga then it might have stuck better, or not (heard the Barca transfer rumours about Mats Hummels and googled him, big mistake lol).
yarroway
Nov. 7th, 2012 03:45 pm (UTC)
Not only all of that, but four important people were defeated. Akin (of "legitimate rape" fame), Mourdock (who so graciously informed women of God's will), Rivard (of "some girls rape easy" fame) and Walsh, who says that there should be no exception to abortion laws for situations that endanger the life of the mother, such as ectopic pregnancies, because these situations *do not exist.* As an extra special treat, Walsh was defeated by a disabled armed forces veteran, Tammy Duckworth (I wish I lived in Illinois so I could have voted for her. She's amazing).

Also, Minnesota voters defeated an amendment that would have banned same sex marriages in their state...even more than it's already banned there. Yeah, I don't get it, but I'm just happy someone somewhere voted against a ban.

I'm really just beside myself today. :D

Edited at 2012-11-07 03:46 pm (UTC)
flywoman
Nov. 7th, 2012 09:57 pm (UTC)
Yes, yay! Thank you for mentioning those other excellent outcomes as well.

Good on Minnesotans for... at least taking a stand!
(Anonymous)
Nov. 7th, 2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
cuddyclothes
This is me, but I can't log in from Mozilla.

I am whooping with joy that so many Tea Party wingnuts got voted out of office.
flywoman
Nov. 7th, 2012 09:55 pm (UTC)
Re: cuddyclothes
YES that too!!!!
jezziejay
Nov. 8th, 2012 12:10 am (UTC)
A good day for American women and equality in general. Can't help but notice from watching the news that the atmosphere is very different that that of four years ago. Less excitement and more relief, maybe. Has Obama been a bit of a disappointment, and it's mostly a case of him being the far lesser of two evils?? Really, I'm curious...
flywoman
Nov. 8th, 2012 12:19 am (UTC)
I think it's fair to say that progressives have been disappointed since the last election - we don't see as dramatic a difference between Obama's policies and those of his little-lamented predecessor as we might have liked. Also, thanks in no small part to Republican obstructionism in Congress, Obama hasn't really been able to make good on his promises of hope and change in a lot of cases. On the other hand, imo, he is by far the lesser of two evils...
jezziejay
Nov. 9th, 2012 12:09 am (UTC)
Well, he certainly seems more tolerant and liberal than Romney...whose pals are also pretty scary people. Some of the stuff they've said is even more idiotic than what our politicians might say. And believe me, most of them are idiots, too.
yarroway
Nov. 8th, 2012 08:06 am (UTC)
Well, that depends on who you ask.

I don't call anyone who opposes gay marriage a progressive, so I had little hope to dash. IMO Obama is fairly moderate in his views. To my surprise I've actually been relatively pleased with his presidency and voted for him this time (as opposed to voting against the other guy and his nutjob VP as I did last time).



flywoman
Nov. 8th, 2012 11:55 am (UTC)
True, depends on who you ask, and I agree that Obama was never that far from center, although iirc he was the most promising of the possibilities four years ago.

But in my case, I was very much voting against the other guy and his nutjob VP this time, more than for Obama per se.
jezziejay
Nov. 9th, 2012 12:15 am (UTC)
It's good to feel excited about your vote - I haven't cast a pro vote for about ten years now. They've all been votes against others.

As merely an observer, I have to say that I was highly entertained by Palin - for all the wrong reasons. Her ridiculousness seemed to know no limits, and everytime I thought she couldn't so any worse, she did. It's like it was her superpower.
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